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Readers Opine: Kristin Kreuk Should Be Held Accountable for Actions in Support of Cult

A Reader

Kristin Kreuk used to drive every week from Vancouver to Tacoma, a long four hour drive to teach NXIVM classes.

Both Vancouver and Tacoma have international airports. Flights to and from both cities are around an hour and Kreuk could definitely afford weekly plane tickets of around $250.

Why did Kreuk drive four hours instead of fly for one hour? Flying was faster and easier and very much affordable for her.

Could she have been taking money across the border from the Vancouver branch to the US?

You can’t launder money like that on a plane but you can by driving.

Also, would it be against the law for Kreuk, a Canadian citizen to coach NXIVM classes in the US without a work permit? She used to coach in Seattle and LA.

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Kristin Kreuk certainly knows a lot more than she wants to admit. She was one of the top NXIVM coaches and used her fame to combat the bad publicity she knew the cult had. She was named in Joe O’Hara’s lawsuit, revealed by John Tighe to have been on Necker Island for a cult summit where he accused the attendees, which included Kreuk, of discussing money laundering including hiding money in the Caribbean. She was named in the Times Union expose as a cult member, where victims of Keith Raniere spoke about being raped by him as children. She stayed on in the cult teaching in LA and Albany. She claims to have left in 2013 but she was still a supporter of the cult as recently as 2015. She was in Vancouver in April/May 2015 before filming the fourth and final season of Beauty and the Beast in Toronto, where she was definitely still very much pro NXIVM. She wants to be famous and in the public eye but arrogantly wants it all her way and the CW Network is wrongly shielding her by making sure reporters don’t ask her anything about NXIVM so Kreuk can continue pretending nothing has happened.

Kreuk recruited tons of people from the CW Network. Not just actors. She even recruited her CW publicist Suzanne Gomez.

Kristin Kreuk [l] on stage with Nicki Clyne [m] and Allison Mack [r] for a recruitment/concert for Keith Raniere [note his name in the background.]
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A Reader:

“If Kristin was talked into being a money mule once or twice (maybe even not knowing what she was transporting) then she could be manipulated to keep doing that or other things, (like not leave or not speak out) for fear of criminal culpability.”

How could she not know if she had a huge amount of money with her? As for being “manipulated”, nobody forced her to drive every week for four hours to get to the Tacoma branch. Again, she could of flown for one hour. Easier, faster and affordable. Instead she drove for four hours.

– “But on the doubting side: Do you or anyone actually know KK drove “every week from Vancouver to Tacoma?””

Yes.

– “Also, “every week” for how many weeks? It seems doubtful that a working actress would have so much free time, and a popular celebrity coaching so many classes would be known to hundreds of people…not just you”.

Her being on the television did not stop her from being a top NXIVM coach. She would of been recognised while coaching and that is partly how she helped combat the negative press the cult received. How can it be a cult if a television actress coaches for them?

Kreuk continued to coach, at least in Albany and in Los Angeles, even while filming her show Beauty and the Beast that she got in 2012. She ignored the Feb 2012 Times Union expose that exposed Keith Raniere as a paedophile. After breaking up with her boyfriend Mark Hildreth in 2013, she moved full time to Toronto where the show was filmed and she allegedly left the cult at the time. However, she did continue to be a supporter of the cult.

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A Reader:

Pretty sure Allison Mack was fucking Keith Raniere before Kristin Kreuk allegedly left. Also, Kristin Keefe said there was not one female member around Raniere he did not have sex with. That “Pea” has posted a few times that Kreuk had sex with Raniere. Some people speculate that Pea is Lauren Salzman.

Kreuk was at least equally as involved with the cult as Mack was. Are we to believe Mack only became sexually involved with Raniere and involved with crimes in that short four year time frame from when Kreuk allegedly left in 2013 and the DOS story made public in 2017?

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Kristin Kreuk was coaching regularly in Vancouver, Albany, Seattle and LA. She really helped build up the cult. She recruited a lot of people into the cult.

John Tighe may of wrote about Allison Mack being one of Keith Raniere’s harem members on his blog.  That Pea Onyu, who may be Lauren Salzman, claimed Kreuk was “ravished” by Keith Raniere. Very possible. She was in deep. Allison Mack was not any deeper in the cult than Kreuk was. If Mack was fucking Raniere before 2013, which she probably was, Kreuk could of done so too.

She almost certainly would of known if Ally Wack was.

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The cult should of been finished years ago. The press should of gone after them in 2012 with the Times Union expose, which revealed that Keith Raniere was a filthy pedophile scumbag cunt who raped little girls. These now adult victims came forward hoping to bring the cult down. Absolutely nothing happened.

Kristin Kreuk was named in that expose and she did not give a shit. She was still a devoted coach and recruiter. What if the press went after her in 2012/13?: “Kristin Kreuk continues to support noted pedophile”?

One of the commentors said, “In 2012-2013, Kreuk, would have been focused on Beauty and the Beast, shooting the pilot, relocating to Toronto, and working, working, working once they started filming the first season which would probably have been from July – April given most network shooting schedules.”

Despite Kreuk filming Beauty and the Beast in 2012/13, she was still coaching in Albany and LA during that time.

The Times Union expose, which named Kreuk as a member, had women come forward and talk about being raped by Raniere as children and the police report was published. Kreuk did not care. She carried on coaching. On day one of intensives, coaches, including Kreuk would tell people that NXIVM was not a cult and to ignore everything.

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“There is a massive difference between just leaving and trying to pretend they have done nothing wrong (Kristin Kreuk) or completely ignoring their involvement (Mark Hildreth).”

Kristin Kreuk is a liar and coward. She recruited tons of females into NXIVM. She was forced by the media to make her weak statement to save her career. No acknowledgement of her role whatsoever. She wants people to think she just did a “self help” course and that was it. Now, she has the CW Network warning interviewers not to ask her about NXIVM so that she can continue pretending nothing has happened. Mark Hildreth is a coward.

– “and people who have active worked to end the situation (shutting down the locations they ran and publicly speaking out), as well as acknowledging what they have done wrong and expressing their remorse (Mark Vicente and Sarah Edmonston).”

Susan Dones shut down her location in 2009 and spoke out. NXIVM tried to ruin her. There were tons of defectors and victims. Only when Edmondson was personally affected did she leave. Mark Vicente even describes himself as a “whistleblower” on his Twitter bio, as if nobody with access to the internet knew NXIVM was a cult.

If the Feds are aware of serious crime committed by anyone in NXIVM, even defectors, then there needs to be consequences, or the law does not mean shit.

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A Reader

The same month the Times Union expose came out [Feb. 2012], Kreuk was named in Joe O’Hara’s lawsuit against NXIVM.  https://archive.org/stream/292927-ohara-v-raniere/292927-ohara-v-raniere_djvu.txt

The same month also, John Tigue released the Necker Island photographs and info of the NXIVM cult summit where he claimed the attendees, which included Kreuk, discussed money laundering, including hiding money in the Caribbean.

 https://frankreport.com/2018/08/03/blast-from-the-past-john-tighe-reports-on-the-new-nxivm-board-named-in-necker-island-2010/

Kreuk broke up with her boyfriend Mark Hildreth in 2013 and moved full time to Toronto where she filmed four seasons of Beauty and the Beast and that is when she allegedly left, on very good terms and not anti-NXIVM at all.

In April/May 2015, she was in Vancouver before going back to Toronto to film the fourth and final season of Beauty and the Beast and was still very much a supporter of NXIVM.

She used her fame to promote the cult and counter the cult claims but never used her fame to speak out against the cult, because she still supported the cult. She helped build up the company massively and has a lot to be held accountable for.

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  • Lots of interesting readers’ opinions, some very troubling for KK if true. One exchange that Frank missed was this—regarding what KK had done that readers said required her arrest:

    Reader 1: She could have been toting cash across the border going back and forth between Vancouver and Tacoma. It was a regular commute for her, and being a tv star at the time, she probably wasn’t hassled much in her crossings.

    Reader 2: Maybe indeed. This is certainly a possibility. An ex-NXIVM member on this site said Kreuk made the four hour commute every Saturday from Vancouver to Tacoma. Siobhan Hotaling (who Kreuk knows), was one of the money runners between Canada and the US. Kreuk who knows the founder of the Vancouver branch, coached at the Vancouver branch and knew Siobhan Hotaling personally must of at least known about this set up and may of even participated.

    REPLY:
    “could have”
    “probably”
    “maybe indeed”
    “a possibility”
    “must of at least known”
    “may of”

    Lock Her Up!

    https://frankreport.com/2018/08/04/kristin-kreuk-interested-in-smallville-animated-revival-but-dont-count-on-allison-mack/#comments

  • Kristin Kreuk used to drive every week from Vancouver to Tacoma, a long four hour drive to teach NXIVM classes.

    Vancouver to Tacoma is 231.3 km by car. So 4 hours is pretty pessimistic. Given the speed limits you should be able to do it in 3 hours. This might depend on where you live in Vancouver and where you have to end up in Tacoma. But come on.
    The big question is whether flying is actually faster. The flight time is given as 60 minutes alone. You have to commute to the airport, go through security and get from the airport to your destination again. If this takes longer than 2 hours you have gained nothing by flying.
    On most airports they expect you to be 1h early the least or more. That eats 50% of the time you save alone. Just for the checks.

    I would not assume she went by car because of less strict luggage checks, but out of convenience. It is faster, you are not bound to flight plans and you can bring as much stuff as you want. On top of that it is probably cheaper, especially when you own a car in the first place. On top of that you need no taxi after you landed.

    You guys are just like the New Yorkers who told me I should fly to Atlantic City once and were impressed that you could get there faster by car.

    • Hey I think you left out time spent at border crossings. Of course a dumb redneck like you would not account for that.

    • Actually it’s usually at least 4 hours to Tacoma, because you have to go thru all the traffic around Seattle before you reach Tacoma. I should know because I have made the drive many times myself. The border lineup can be really bad, too., like a couple of hours sometimes.

      If KK had a Nexus card she could bypass the border lineup , but not if she had passengers in her vehicle who didn’t have cards.
      The cameras take pics of your car as you go thru…they will catch you eventually if you don’t follow the rules.

      I have flown to SeaTac as well (and the airport is between Seattle and Tacoma ) …it is quicker but obviously if KK is carrying a lot of stuff with her, it would be easier to drive.

      • But why drive? If flying is easier, which it is, why drive? What was she bringing with her? Weekly trips from Vancouver to Tacoma by car would make her an ideal money mule.

        • If KK did need to transport a lot of course material with her (I have no idea if she did or not) then I can imagine she migjt want to drive, rather than check the bags.
          Also , if she flew, then she would need to rent a car as well….which adds time and expense.
          I’m unsure where the NXIVM office was located , but I’m guessing around the downtown Tacoma area. The airport is located a fair distance from Tacoma, so a cab ride will be fairly expensive if she decided not to rent a car.

          Either way, if she flew she would be stuck without a car and would need some at to get to Tacoma. This might have been a factor in her choosing to drive.

          I have relatives near Tacoma, and they never fly here (to the Vancouver area) and the only time I’ve flown to SeaTac was when my plane stopped there first. I have taken the train from Vancouver to Tacoma (it takes you to DT Tacoma) but the trains done run very often . In fact, there may not be regular Saturday morning flights from YVR either. I’ve never checked.

  • It’s amazing, Catherine Oxenberg managed to write a 384 page book around NXIVM without a single mention of Kristin Kreuk. How is it possible she could mention Richard Branson, Rosario Dawson, the Dalai Lama and not Frank’s White Whale.

    • Maybe Kreuk is just one of the most famous wolves disguised as sheeps and it’s maybe related to the fact one tries to tell the truth as she’s just following her master’s, K. Raniere, advice “Stay under the radars for a while”… If we have no more from a woman that pretends defending women’s rights and especially the most vulnerable : “pre-teens” it’s maybe because she just hopes that everyone forget about that story, in order to proceed with her masters’ (Raniere, Salzmann, etc.) directives ! Hide NXIVM, create and rise “YogaCorp/YogaStuff/YogaWhatever…”
      There is definitely something unclear with that Kreuk person…

    • …because Kristin was always driving from Vancouver to Albany with a car full of Canadian “Loonies” and pre-teen recruits.

  • Quick! Someone call the FBI! We have a modern day Sherlock Holmes posting in the comments who has cracked the case.

      • My point is that all of these comments are nothing but sheer speculation.

        Statements like “people she has harmed” and “NXIVM project” are loaded with the guilt by association fallacy. Kristin and Kendra made a statement way back around the 2008/2009 time frame on one of Kristin’s most popular fan forums which she was known to read at the time, that Girls By Design was their own creation and it had no association or affiliation to NXIVM when some of Kristin’s fans made a brouhaha about a possible linkage due the pejorative cult label. And due to the sensationalized sex cult association that was rampant in the media some months back, there was even a post on the same forum (though it is now hosted by a new website provider) around the same time made by a fan who goes by the alias “Starka” who was also part of Girls By Design at that time who confirmed that Kristin and Kendra never tried to recruit any of the girls into NXIVM.

        These comments are just made by anonymous whiny bitches with no credibility to their name who OBVIOUSLY have some personal grudge against Kristin who are posting speculative comments venting their frustrations and wishing and hoping that she did something wrong that could get her into trouble.

        In Kristin’s case, at most you have a woman who thought the courses she took were helpful to her and so she thought she could help others with them and who naively believed in the mission of a company that used her for credibility purposes. The worst act she probably did as part of the cult was kiss that fraud of a leader on the lips.

        • So the comments here by former members, and people allegedly in-the-know, are sheer speculation from anonymous whiny bitches, but the anonymous FAN posting on a FAN forum, who goes by the name of “Starka,” is an unbiased FAN and impeccable source.

          Ok. Sure.

          Once an apologist, always an apologist.

          • – by former members, and people allegedly in-the-know,

            ROFL. Don’t make me keel over from laughing so hard.

            – who goes by the name of “Starka,” is an unbiased FAN and impeccable source.

            I didn’t say or imply she was an “unbiased fan” nor an “impeccable” source. I said she was one of those who participated in Girls By Design and interacted with both Kristin and Kendra making her a first hand source and that she confirmed their statement. This is called witness testimony.

            Learn how to read.

          • Yes, an anonymous person named “Starka” on a FAN board anonymously “confirmed” (unless a made up screen name counts as not being anonymous in your world) that his/her/it (Is “Starka” gender nuetral? We’ll never know.) participated in the company Girls By Design and absolutely (why wouldn’t it be certain, Starka said so and she/he/it is not anonymous…or not?) interacted with both (why not both? I mean why not? Its Starka after all, her word is as good as Mohammed’s) Kristen and Kendra making her a first hand source (of course she’s first hand, she said it on a fan forum, duh!).

            This is called witness testimony. Thanks Sultan, now I know why the DOJ has not indicted KK. They’ve got the witness testimony from Starka in the fan forum. No prosecutor is going to bother make a case if the defense has that rock solid piece of evidence to back them up.

            Here’s some witness testimony for you: I, SultanOfStupid, duly swear upon a stack of Korans, that Muhammad is a deranged pedophile.

            Sorry to turn your world upside down with my first hand witness testimony. You’ll get through it. Just keep your chin up and your beard washed!

          • Gawd you’re a blathering moron. Of course “Starka” has a real identity behind her alias. I know her real name because she took part in Girls By Design and the previously mentioned forum and revealed who she was there. I remember because I have a pretty good memory when I care to pay attention. That doesn’t mean I’m going to share her real name with you here. She was brought up to evidence the fact that Girls By Design was not a recruiting tool for NXIVM in line with Kristin and Kendra’s given statement. Learn how to follow a fucking argument.

            – Thanks Sultan, now I know why the DOJ has not indicted KK.

            Yeah, because she didn’t do anything. Also, because the DOJ relies on things like hard evidence to indict people. They don’t accept arguments from ignorance, baseless claims, and the speculative word of anonymous losers in the comment sections of a blog who are mad because they wanted to fuck Kristin but couldn’t.

            You’re welcome to keep trying though. Maybe you’ll eventually break through like the guy who bangs his head against a brick wall.

          • From a former member of Girls By Design on this sister:

            anonymous
            April 17, 2018 at 4:37 am
            I was a part of GBD in 2008 when I was 17 years old. KK would have girls fill out questionnaires (usually open ended questions about your experience as a teen) on facebook, and Kendra would contact us privately if we said something that interested her. Here’s one thing I do remember– it seemed Kristen and Kendra were more interested in recruiting girls much younger in age than me, closer to middle school. I ended up leaving GBD because of that. I also remember them both posting numerous vlogs on youtube.

            I do remember at one point Kendra was much more interactive with having one on one’s with individual girls than KK was. I remember thinking that perhaps GBD was Kendra’s thing and KK was there to generate attention (at least she didn’t seem to want to get her hands dirty).

            Not sure if that information is useful, but I wanted to put it out there.

  • I continue to maintain one of the primary issues at hand is her b.s. public relations statement, and not having any public remorse for the people she has harmed.

    IMO that tells me everything I could ever need to know about Kristin Kreuk. Nothing someone could tell me she has done would surprise me. Especially since she was the first one to attempt to actively target pre-teen / teenage girls for recruitment.

    • anonymous
      April 17, 2018 at 4:37 am
      I was a part of GBD in 2008 when I was 17 years old. KK would have girls fill out questionnaires (usually open ended questions about your experience as a teen) on facebook, and Kendra would contact us privately if we said something that interested her. Here’s one thing I do remember– it seemed Kristen and Kendra were more interested in recruiting girls much younger in age than me, closer to middle school. I ended up leaving GBD because of that. I also remember them both posting numerous vlogs on youtube.

      I do remember at one point Kendra was much more interactive with having one on one’s with individual girls than KK was. I remember thinking that perhaps GBD was Kendra’s thing and KK was there to generate attention (at least she didn’t seem to want to get her hands dirty).

      Not sure if that information is useful, but I wanted to put it out there.

  • Kristin Kreuk’s business Girls by Design, was HER NXIVM business project. We were all highly encouraged to create ethical businesses based on NXIVM ethics. Before Kreuk launched GBD, she asked Nancy Salzman for approval.

    Kreuk also recruited her close friends Allison Mack, Sima Kumar, and Kendra Voth into NXIVM.

    Kreuk also had meetings for Jness and GBD in her house in Vancouver.

    Kreuk thought Nancy Salzman was a great role model and example of female empowerment.

    Of course KK knew about the inner workings of NXIVM. She was the face of NXIVM.

    • Kinda hard to believe anything Omar “FormerNexian” Rosales writes when he goes around saying that Kreuk recruited Sarah Edmondson and came on here calling people Halloween breath posting stuff like “I have the liver of a T-Rex, I’m hung like a donkey, I eat like a shark, and I smell like a monkey.” Besides, Catherine Oxenberg hosted meetings, recruited her then husband and his two kids, took classes in Albany, Vancouver and Mexico over a 3 year period before she became disenchanted. And Sima and Kendra have publicly supported. Kreuk’s statement. Kendra tweeted: “KK has been a dear friend in my life and has always been an example of compassion, empathy and kindness. Kristin is a quiet, caring, gentle person and I can 100% support her statement. Her goodness is often takin advantage of, and her name has been wrongly exploited.”

      • Oh please. It’s just a matter of time before Kristin’s involvement is more exposed by Vice, NYPost, or Daily Mail.

        Obviously, I don’t have the liver of a T-Rex. That would be impossible since T-Rex has been extinct for 65 Million years. Moreover, I don’t think a T-Rex liver could actually fit in my body. Do you recognize hyperbole and rhetoric?

        What is not rhetoric is KK’s long-time involvement with NXIVM and her meetings on Necker Island. How many senior leaders were invited to Necker Island? Very few. Is there a picture of Sarah Edmonson on Necker Island? No.

        Was Sarah Edmonson on videotape, singing to Dear VanGrifter about blows going on later that night? Nope. But Kristin Kook was.

        And there are more people from the set of Smallville that will say KK tried to recruit them. And not even her own production company folks, Kaleena Kiff and Galen Fletcher wanted to hang out with KK, because they thought she was brainwashed.

        As far as Kendra Voth, KV is a professional hanger-oner. If you haven’t figured that one out by now. Duh. All of KK’s close friends fight each other for attention to get close to the starlet. Of course Kendra Voth is not going to slam her meal ticket to fame, success, and fortune – Kristin Kreuk.

        Wake up.

        • You’re not a NXIVM insider. You took some courses and you think you can use the alias “FormerNexian” and it gives you some legitimacy to whatever you say.

          – What is not rhetoric is KK’s long-time involvement with NXIVM and her meetings on Necker Island. How many senior leaders were invited to Necker Island? Very few. Is there a picture of Sarah Edmonson on Necker Island? No.

          Your information is garbage. You said Kristin recruited Sarah into NXIVM when she didn’t. Sarah was already in NXIVM for years.

          – Was Sarah Edmonson on videotape, singing to Dear VanGrifter about blows going on later that night? Nope. But Kristin Kook was.

          Neither was Kristin you fib flinging, conflating two different events buffoon because there has never been a video from Necker Island that was released publicly. That video was recorded by a fan of Kristin’s named Boris at the first Acapella Innovations, Kristin wasn’t singing, and that “blowing” reference was a joke told by Nicki Clyne on stage in reference to the lyrics of one of the songs by one of the Acapella groups that was performing there.

          You can’t even get your bad information right.

          – As far as Kendra Voth, KV is a professional hanger-oner. If you haven’t figured that one out by now. Duh. All of KK’s close friends fight each other for attention to get close to the starlet.

          Oh so now, Kendra is a leech. Yet, in another comment to a previous article on this website you told another poster to “go ask Kendra” about Kristin to verify that you are right, and now you’re ragging on the credibility of Kendra as if her word means nothing.

          You can’t even keep track of your own contradictions. You’re a fraud just like VanGrifter.

          • I hate to burst your fantasy Sultan. Kristin Kreuk is never going to thank you or love you EVER. You don’t know anything about her, except for what you see on television.

            I never said KK recruited Sarah E. I said only high-ranking NXIVM senior leaders went to the Necker Island party. And I never said there was a Necker Island vid.

            But there is a Simply Human vid and a V Week vid where KK is praising her Master.

            There are multiple streams of evidence showing Kristin Kreuk was a senior leader. Photos. Videos. Websites.

            I never said Kendra Voth was a good person. I told you to contact her you STALKER and ask her about GBD to verify it was their NXIVM business project.

            KK was senior member of NXIVM. Get over it. And she would never give you the time of day. Wake up doofus.

          • FormerNexivm, you said: ” there is a Simply Human vid and a V Week vid where KK is praising her Master.”

            I’ve read a lot on this blog and never saw a V Week vid of KK praising KR.
            I’ve seen a Simply Human vid that is innocuous, and KK does not praise KR in it. Is there one where she does?

            It would inform others (and bolster your case against her) if you could supply the link to these vids “where KK praises her Master.”

            Thanks

          • Sultan, you’re just a lookie-loo. You have never met any of these people.

            I spent time with Keith twice. I’ve played volleyball with the Heiresses. And I knew Allison from before she was eyeballs deep in NXIVM.

            Go trim your camel’s toe bro.

          • – Kristin Kreuk is never going to thank you or love you EVER.

            Irrelevant.

            – You don’t know anything about her, except for what you see on television.

            If I did you wouldn’t know it. Also, I’ve “seen” her on more than just television. I’ve seen her on the big screen, video interviews, online interaction, etc.

            – I never said KK recruited Sarah E.

            Yes you did. Not here but elsewhere.

            You’re very first post as “FormerNxian” was a direct verbal assault on Kristin. You have an obvious problem with her that is rooted in something other than her NXIVM assocation. You’re just using that as an excuse to cast your vitriol.

            – I said only high-ranking NXIVM senior leaders went to the Necker Island party. And I never said there was a Necker Island vid.

            What is a “senior” leader in NXIVM? There are insiders, board members, coaches, proctors, followers, and members. It is a well known fact that Kristin took courses, coached them, and was considered a VIP in NXIVM because of her celebrity and for possibly other underhanded motives secretly intended by the VanFraud and his minions. This is old news. That doesn’t prove she recruited a gazillion teen girls into his bed, partook in anything illegal, slept with Raniere, etc. It only means she believed in the front for the cult, the self-help seminars and the mission.

            – But there is a Simply Human vid and a V Week vid where KK is praising her Master.

            Yeah so what? All NXIVM members were brainwashed into verbally paying tribute to the VanFraud. Whoopdeedoo.

            – I never said Kendra Voth was a good person.

            Where did I say you said she was a good person? I said you told another person to go verify from Kendra what Kristin was in NXIVM. That means you’re telling that person to trust her word, yet out of the other side of your mouth you’re disputing the truthfulness of her words that support Kristin’s integrity that Anonymous August 14, 2018 at 11:10 am posted here because you don’t agree with it. You’re just chalk full of contradictions. How the fuck are you a lawyer?

            – And she would never give you the time of day.

            This is just as irrelevant as your first statement.

            – I spent time with Keith twice. I’ve played volleyball with the Heiresses.

            Big whoop. So did plenty of people. So did Chet Hardin, a journalist from Metroland in Albany.

            – And I knew Allison from before she was eyeballs deep in NXIVM.

            How the fuck is that even relevant to anything that was said? A number of fans who posted on Kristin’s fan forums spent time with Kristin as part of Girls By Design. They have first hand experience with her. You have none.

            – Go trim your camel’s toe bro.

            I don’t even know what the fuck that means. But if you want to go there, go lose some weight.

          • ” I’ve seen her on more than just television. I’ve seen her on the big screen, video interviews,
            online interaction, etc, etc.”
            Whack that pee pee you Stalker!!!

          • Please keep us up to date on “The Young and the Keith-less” soap opera. It’s SO exciting. Yawn.

            Frank should ban all of you for adding zero content and causing the rest of us to waste our time reading your garbage. Do it NOW, Frank. Ban them.

  • Did Kristen Kreuk brand women with a hot iron? No!
    Did Kristen Kreuk make women vow to serve as sex slaves? No!
    Did Kristen Kreuk collect information to blackmail women into performing as sex slaves? No!

    All of which Allison Pimp Mack gladly did.

    Until Kristen Kreuk does something for which she can be indicted, she is head and shoulders above the other women of NXIVM.

    • How about that. You have dumped Allie Wack to go back to Kristen. How often during an episode of her new show do you spank it.

      • Allie Wack is a married woman, or didn’t you get the memo.
        Her wife is Nicki Clyne.
        And when Pimp Allison is not on ice they get together with their good friend Colonel Angus.

  • Why is there speculation that KK might have been doing the nasty with Vantard? Of course they were!

    Vantard thoughts: “KK is stunningly beautiful and a celebrity that I’ve lusted after on TV. She also feeds my ego by being an enthusiastic employee of my company and thinking I’m the smartest man in the world.”

    Even a sane man would be thinking dirty thoughts at this point, but this is the point where a sane man exercises restraint, either over his mind and if not his mind, then his actions. But we are talking about Vantard here.

    Vantard thoughts continued: “I get off on the power dynamic of the boss/employee, teacher/student, etc. In fact, I don’t feel whole unless I exploit that dynamic. I’m going to dedicate my thoughts and time to create a situation where I can do the nasty with KK.”

    From the very second that Vantard heard that KK was interested in Nexium, he was plotting about how he could enter her pearly gates. I’d bet my life on it.

    KK thoughts: “I can’t believe that I’m working for the smartest man in the world. I can just feel his power and its magnetic. Oh wow, now he’s giving his attention to me. He can’t resist me. I am drunk on his attention.”

    Next thing you know they’re fucking like rabbits after a long night of volleyball. Well, not quite. She may have been fucking like a rabbit – I’m sure Vantard fucks like a tortoise.

    • I’m sure the fact that KK had a boyfriend also stimulated Vantard even more. The act of cuckolding her boyfriend intensified his desire to feel whole through exploiting his power over her, and indirectly, him.

      I broke up a cult that a family member was participating in about five years ago. I was able to read thousands of the cult leaders emails and messages to the woman who was deepest into this particular cult. I also read his emails to her husband. The leader clearly got off over the fact that he was cuckolding the husband. It was also obvious that he had a much higher sexual interest in the married women in his small cult than the single women. Thankfully the cult was broken up before he was able to sexually ruin any other women’s lives.

    • I certainly agree Keith’s little pecker was engorged by Kristin. She was the beautiful epitome of his ideal girl-ish woman, plus she had money to take and fame to exploit.

      But Keith’s appeal to Kristin is curious. If he had been just some actor who hit on her, saying he’s the 3rd smartest man in the world with a brain so powerful that it sets off radar detectors, plus is a concert pianist and judo champ who also set the 100 yard dash record with his stubby legs..she would have laughed in his face.
      But in NXIVM she didn’t laugh, and instead became a true believer. I firmly believe Keith’s appeal to women is mainly based on his “mesmerizing” charm. If KK and KR ever did do the nasty, Keith had to mind-fuck Kristin before he fucked her.

      • He most def mind-fucked her first. Keith knows better than anyone else that he needs to mind-fuck a woman before he actually fucks her. And he needs to mind-fuck her hard; otherwise, the real fuck won’t happen. If he tries the actual fuck too early in the process, it will undo the mind-fuck. This occurred in the cult I was involved with. The leader made a move on a girl and wound up with a sexual assault investigation. He hadn’t adequately mind-fucked her first, and he had zero desirable attributes to a woman in a typical non-cult situation (same as Keith). She rejected his aggressive overtures and filed a police report.

        Keith is not mesmerizing and has little charm. What he does have, and the cult leader I was involved with also had, is the uncanny ability to identify people who have a spiritual hole within themselves that needs to be filled, and he has the lack of conscience necessary to exploit that hole to his advantage.

        Cult level mind control is almost impossible to understand unless you experience it first hand or see it happen to someone close to you. I was baffled by it myself for a long time when dealing with it in my personal life. It took reading Freedom of Mind by Steven Hassan, and dispassionate observation of the behavior of the cult I was involved with, to finally grasp the effects of mind control.

        The only reason Kieth can fuck these women is that he has them under mind control. There is nothing about him personally that makes them want to fuck him – its 100% mind control. If you research cult behavior, you’ll realize that it takes quite a bit of mind fucking over an extended period of time, to get a woman to fuck a person she otherwise wouldn’t fuck. Those barriers within the victim are broken down incrementally until she’s at the stage where she’ll fuck on demand.

        Based on KK’s behavior, it seems like she reached that point. If she did, she and Keith were fucking.

        Keith mind fucked his original team and then trained them to mind fuck others on his behalf. By the time KK spent any significant time in Keith’s presence, she would’ve been well on her way to being completely under his control. The cult leader I was involved with had mind-controlled minions, but unlike Keith, he didn’t turn over any of the mind-fucking responsibilities to any of them. This slowed the process of mind-fucking each individual way down and ultimately lead to his undoing.

          • Could you define “mesmerizing charm” for me please? I need help. Because I just don’t think he’s got mesmerizing charm. He’s not George Clooney or JFK.

            Charm

            Noun: the power of quality of giving delight synonyms: attractiveness, beauty, glamour, loviliness

            Not really words you’d think of when thinking about Keith.

            Keith uses mesmerizing techniques to brainwash people, but if you watch a few videos of him online, you’d be hard pressed to say Keith himself is mesmerizing. Unless a dull word salad delivered by a greasy schlub is mesmerizing. I find it to be eye rolling and pathetic, but maybe that’s just me.

            The guy is a dullard. He’s not mesmerizing or charming. But he seems to do a fine job of brainwashing a select few people into thinking that he is.

          • You defined it yourself:
            “He’s not mesmerizing or charming. But he seems to do a fine job of brainwashing [or hypnotizing or mindfucking, etc] a select few people into thinking that he is [mesmerizing or charming].

      • Kristin Kreuk was deep in the cult. Allison Mack was not in any deeper then Kristin Kreuk before 2013. If Allison Mack was having sex with Keith Raniere before Kreuk claims she left, it is a possibility Kreuk was fucking him too.

  • Kristin Kreuk basically admits to being a coward in her New Culture Revolution blog she started with Sima Kumar, her stylist she recruited into NXIVM. Dated September 4th 2013:

    “If you were to be privy to what went on inside my head for 24 hours you would see that there are at least a dozen times a day where I hold back from saying or expressing something that may be uncomfortable. That may trigger a reaction, that may be unpopular or distasteful. I shy away from the hard stuff. I look for easiness. This is not something I am proud of. And this is something I am actively working to change. This makes me easily pliable and causes whatever it is I want to stand for to be ineffectual and watered down. And truly means I don’t stand for anything but being wishy-washy and afraid.”

    All her 2017 virtue signalling about “women’s rights” and “patriarchy” in 2017 while being silent on NXIVM means she is still “wishy-washy”.

    Link to blog post: http://newculturerevolution.tumblr.com/post/60269768923/ncr-arts-entertainment-ai-weiwei-for

    Also, on her old Instagram page, dated August 12th 2016, she essentially moans that she is not as famous as she wishes she was and admits to being fearful, insecure and needing external sources of validation. She posts a picture of a feminist book and a link to a feminist TED talk from the author. Kreuk does not care about “women’s rights”.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BJA4DPnAUk8/

  • Again trying to make a comment on a FAN forum be an official witness statement. Like it somehow carries more validity than any comments here.

    Its insane that you’d accept an alleged statement from someone who was involved with Girls By Design, who would themselves be hurt by any association with Nexium through Girls By Design, as a statement of fact.

    Unbelievable how gullible people are. But then again, you seem to be a Muslim apologist, so it makes sense.

    Your witness statement has no more validity than an anonymous internet comment, and if the witness had a mutually beneficial relationship of any sort with KK, that statement has less value than Aisha’s innocence, which we all know had zero value at all.

    • – official witness statement

      Gawd you’re an idiot. I never said “official” witness statement. I said it is witness testimony. I neither said nor implied it was something given on the stand in a courtroom, a notarized statement or the like, which would make it official.

      – Like it somehow carries more validity than any comments here.

      It DOES because there is a verifiable identity attached to the alias instead of a bunch of anonymous blowhards who are making stuff up. You don’t even have to be anonymous to be making stuff up as Omar has been shown to have been doing multiple times.

      – Its insane that you’d accept an alleged statement from someone who was involved with Girls By Design, who would themselves be hurt by any association with Nexium through Girls By Design, as a statement of fact.

      LOOOOOOOOLLLLL. There is no evidence whatsoever that Girls By Design was nefariously linked to NXIVM. That is a claim and the point of contention, and hence what needs to proven. Merely stating that both are linked and then saying this girl would be ashamed of her association to NXIVM proves nothing with respect to it.

      – Unbelievable how gullible people are.

      Unbelievable how retarded you are.

      – But then again, you seem to be a Muslim apologist, so it makes sense.

      Do you even know what the definition of an apologist is? It is “a person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.” So it’s someone who argues for and justifies his position. So yeah, it does make sense.

      Well that backfired for you.

      – Your witness statement has no more validity than an anonymous internet comment,

      LOOOOOOLLLLLL. It definitely has more validity. I can attach a name and identity to the alias unlike an anonymous blowhard like you or anyone else who can just make things up in the comments. It would also hold more validity in the eyes of those who work for the DOJ who’ve you’ve previously referenced.

      – KK, that statement has less value than Aisha’s innocence, which we all know had zero value at all.

      A completely irrelevant red herring.

  • Down below Omar “FormerNexian” Rosales wrote, “I never said KK recruited Sarah E.” But earlier this year he tweeted

    Omar Rosales‏ @LitecoinBaby Mar 26
    Wrong! Kreuk recruited Sarah Edmonton.

    Omar Rosales‏ @LitecoinBaby Mar 26
    Truth hurts. Look it up. It started with weasel Mark Hildreth who brought in Kristin Kreuk. Kreuk then recruited Allison Mack and Sarah Edmonton. Kreuk taught classes for years in Vancouver and Seattle.

    While his ignorance or inability to spell Sarah’s last name might technically save him from being a bald-faced liar, anyone with half a brain, can tell who he meant. So what other “truths” is Omar “FormerNexian” Rosales perhaps blatantly lying about or just flat out wrong about.

    • Kristin Kreuk claims she left in 2013, but she was still a supporter of the cult in 2015 and that is a fact.

      Do you really believe NXIVM “got weird” after 2013? Do you think Keith Raniere only starting being a prick fucking female cult members after 2013? You think NXIVM only started doing tax evasion and money laundering after 2013?

      In fact, the DOS sub-cult was first formulated in 2015, heated up in 2016 and got exposed by Frank Parlato in June 2017. That is two years.

      Kristin Kreuk was named in the same Times Union expose (Feb 2012) where her beloved Keith Raniere’s child paedophilia victims came forward revealing how they were raped by him as children. Kreuk was STILL an active member of the cult after that, coaching in Albany and LA and was still pro-NXIVM in 2015.

  • Well here you have it. A bunch of older than middle age men wondering if their little starlets that they love to fantasize about were fucking a fellow perv. Meanwhile the corrupt politicians and law enforcement that enabled and coddled and actively participated in this cult get little concern from the cult of the personality pervs here.

    • NOT MIDDLE AGED “MEN” — RAHTER MTF TRANNIES

      AND FTM TRANNIES

      GET IT STRAIGHT – STOP THE LIES!!!!!!

      AND YES – IT MATTERS – HUGELY!!!!!!!

      ***hillary tranny clinton and bill tranny clinton*** – MTF and FTM

      nex cult – the cult of gender pervert inversion

  • Does ANYONE ever do any research before opening their mouths and spewing complete trash? What proof do something anyone havethath Kristen was a cash mule? What proof do you have that she had sex with Keith? What proof do you have that she “Knew” about the inner sex circle? NONE because there is ZERO evidence of it, she hasn’t been arrested, she was questioned (she volunteered for the questioning). So what if she drove 4 hour’s a week from Vancouver to Tacoma, that’s a beautiful, peaceful and calming drive. Maybe she doesn’t like to fly so, she drives whenever she can, I know I would. I live 3 hours from a major city and I could fly but, im not a fan of flying, I love to drive and I do it all the time. As for her “Teaching or recruiting” without a work permit or Visa, she didn’t work for Nexium, she attended and paidforp self helpanfh confidence building. Now, I’m no expert but it really doesn’t take a genius to figure out that one part of confidence building especially for an actress in the public and media’s radar constantly that having her speak in front of people would be a FANTASTIC confidence building exercise. She was a recruiter as well because of her celebrity status, she volunteered that information. No other party (Victim or accused) has come forward and dasa she did more than attend seminar’s, help recruit a coyple people and speak. My God people are just vicious vultures.

    • kristin is a DUDE
      and YES..it MATTERS!
      considering they ALL ARE GENDER INVERTED!

      SO WE HAVE A CULT OF MEN PRETENDING TO BE WOMEN ABUSING KIDS AND WOMEN???

      UMMMM….

    • – “she hasn’t been arrested, she was questioned (she volunteered for the questioning).”

      How do you know Kristin Kreuk “volunteered” for questioning? Do you know her? If so, why and when did she “volunteer” for questioning? Who did she get in contact with? The authorities almost certainly would of asked Allison Mack how she got involved with the cult and Kreuk’s name would of come up. Also, all the press coverage.

      If she did talk to the authorities, did it not occur to you she could of lied about what she knew and did? Her weak public statement deliberately held back on information about what she did and she has the CW Network shielding her from reporters.

      John Tigue, a man who exposed a lot about NXIVM proved Kreuk was on Necker Island and he made the claim the attendees, which included Kreuk discussed money laundering including hiding money in the Caribbean. She was also named in a 2012 criminal lawsuit.

      Kreuk’s friend Siohban Hotaling was a money mule. She went to Canada and brought money across the border. If Kreuk was known to travel weakly from a Vancouver to Tacoma by car, she would of made an ideal money mule. Would she even admit to being one?

      – “She was a recruiter as well because of her celebrity status, she volunteered that information. No other party (Victim or accused) has come forward and dasa she did more than attend seminar’s, help recruit a coyple people and speak. My God people are just vicious vultures.”

      When did she “volunteer” that information that she was a recruiter? She has never admitted that publicly. She recruited a lot more than just a “couple” of people too.

      – “As for her “Teaching or recruiting” without a work permit or Visa, she didn’t work for Nexium, she attended and paidforp self helpanfh confidence building.”

      Wrong. She did not just attend courses and recruit. She coached. She coached in Vancouver, Albany, Tacoma and Los Angeles. She worked for NXIVM.

      If Kreuk spoke to the authorities, volunteering to do so or not, she would of done so to make the authorities not look into her. Do you think she would admit to participating in or at least knowing about criminal activity?

      Kreuk was deep in NXIVM. Allison Mack was not any deeper in than Kreuk. You think Allison Mack only went off the rails after Kreuk claims she left in 2013?

  • ah kristen – i see a BROWRIDGE!
    another MTF TRANNY!

    fakers perverts misogynists
    cult of GENDER INVERSION!!!!

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