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‘Just Because I Fucked Him Doesn’t Mean I Knew He Was Fucked Up’ – Clare Bronfman

In a last-ditch effort to get her trial severed from that of Keith Raniere and Allison Mack, Clare Bronfman is trying to draw a distinction between what she did and what she knew.

In the latest filing by one of her attorneys, the argument is made that even if Clare did, in fact, have a sexual relationship with Raniere – and even if they talked about sex – that’s not proof that “Bronfman knew about sex crimes or that those sex crimes have any bearing on the government’s case against Bronfman”.

Her attorneys also claim that Bronfman “undisputedly did not know about DOS”, an assertion for which they offer absolutely no proof.

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While Clare’s attorneys continue to pound the table in their attempt to convince Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis that Clare is different than the people with whom she has consorted and funded for more than 15 years, they continue to ignore the reality of the situation.

The government has not charged Clare with any sex-related crimes. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

But they have charged her with being part of a criminal enterprise that, among other things, did engage in sex-related crimes.

And in order to prove the existence of that criminal enterprise, the government plans to introduce evidence of a variety of crimes that its members committed (These are referred to in legal jargon as “predicate acts”).

More specifically, the government plans to introduce evidence of the following “predicate acts”:
Racketeering Act One
– Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 1
– Conspiracy To Unlawfully Possess Identification Document

Racketeering Act Two
– Sexual Exploitation Of A Child – Jane Doe 2

Racketeering Act Three
– Sexual Exploitation Of A Child – Jane Doe 2

Racketeering Act Four
– Possession Of Child Pornography

Racketeering Act Five
– Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft
– Identity Theft Regarding John Doe 1
– Identity Theft Regarding John Doe 2

Racketeering Act Six
– Conspiracy To Alter Records For Use In An Official Proceeding

Racketeering Act Seven
– Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 3

Racketeering Act Eight
– Money Laundering

Racketeering Act Nine
– Trafficking Of Jane Doe 4 For Labor And Services
– Document Servitude Of Jane Done 4

Racketeering Act Ten
– State Law Extortion

Racketeering Act Eleven
– Visa Fraud

Racketeering Act Twelve
– Sex Trafficking Of Jane Doe 5
– Forced Labor Of Jane Doe 5

Racketeering Act Thirteen
– Forced Labor Of Jane Doe 9

Racketeering Act Fourteen
– Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft

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From the very beginning, Clare’s attorneys have tried to portray her as being different than Raniere, Mack and Lauren Salzman (Lauren, of course, is no longer an issue because she has already entered into a plea deal in the case).

They even coined the term “non-DOS defendants” to describe her, Nancy Salzman and Kathy Russell.

At other times they tried to imply that Clare had only been charged with one count of Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft – and was, thus, only facing a short prison sentence if she were found guilty.

But the sad reality for Clare is that she has been facing a significant amount of prison time from the moment she was indicted.

Per the first superseding indictment, which was issued on July 23, 2018, Clare was charged with one count of Racketeering Conspiracy, a charge that carries a maximum sentence of 20 years. She was also charged in that same indictment with one count of Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft.

Per the second superseding indictment, which was issued on March 13, 2019, she is now charged with one count of Racketeering Conspiracy and one count of Racketeering, each of which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years (Those are same two counts to which Lauren Salzman recently pleaded guilty). She is also charged in that same indictment with one count of Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft.

No matter how hard they try, Clare’s attorneys are not going to change the reality of her situation.

She is a member of – and, indeed, the financier for – a criminal enterprise that committed all sort of felonious acts.

And while she may not have committed all those acts herself – or even known about some of them – that doesn’t change a thing in terms of her being charged with Racketeering Conspiracy and Racketeering.

As the prosecution stated in its opposition to the motions to sever that were filed by Clare, Mack, and Russell: “The severance motions filed by defendants Bronfman, Mack and Russell are without merit and should be denied. Although they repeatedly attempt to argue otherwise, Bronfman, Mack and Russell are each charged in an overarching RICO conspiracy involving predicate acts of human trafficking, sex trafficking, and child exploitation, and the evidence regarding these offenses is admissible against them as proof of the enterprise and the pattern of racketeering charged in (the second superseding indictment)”.

And as it went on to say: “the government expects to admit evidence that the members of the charged enterprise recruited and groomed sexual partners for Raniere, both within and outside of DOS, and were aware of and facilitated Raniere’s sexual relationship with underage victims”.

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Even if Clare were to be given a separate trial – which is not going to happen – the government would still be able to introduce evidence about the predicate acts to support the existence of the criminal enterprise.

While it’s possible that her attorneys might be able to prevent the introduction of evidence with respect to one or more of the sex-related predicate acts, they are never going to convince any judge to exclude evidence about all of them.

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Here’s a suggestion for Clarebear: If you don’t want to be portrayed as a member of a group that engages in heinous activities that include things like the sexual exploitation of minors and the possession of child pornography, then don’t spend 15+ years as a member of that group – and finanace all its criminal activities.

Viva Executive Success!

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  • Will the fact that Nxivm Mexico and Nxivm France are functioning entities play a role in the plea bargains the DOJ offers the remaining defendants?

    If Claire is left off the hook she can go on funding Nxivm programs by other names in the United States and abroad. Her sister is all ready doing so in France.

  • The proof is in the pudding. “Noblese Oblige” ain’t gonna cover this one, neither, Clare. You pumped and pimped for a Pedophile for nearly 15 filthy years.

    Clare did, apparently, believe KAR was her hubby though. Say Maybe Clare hired Burke behind Keith’s back to get rid of Marianna — deep down she’s the distigrating jealous type?

    Personally, I’d be surprised if there aren’t vids of the dainty heiress eating at the Y, herself, as rumored for years.

    Jury’s still out on that proof and I do hope DOJ is granted more time to at least review the entirety of the evidence the defense unjustly blocked so far over Clare’s “privileges.”

    Btw, is Clare still supporting Kemar, who could just turn out to be her, Marianna’s and KAR’s love child? Or is that just payment to cover Marianna’s “witness fees”?

    Thanks, Claviger

    • Firstly… Clare already funded a ‘trust’ with $500k for Marianna and Kemar. Dummy.

      Unless it was a revocable trust (which it likely wasn’t) then she can’t ‘undo’ that financial support. Marianna’s got money for a long time. That means Keith’s commissary account will not be empty regardless of what your hero Claviger says.

      Secondly, what the fuck does ‘distigrating’ mean?

      Thirdly, EDNY prosecutors have virtually unlimited resources to sift thru thousands of extra discovery documents in a very short time. If necessary, they can add dozens of document review personnel to their team to sift thru thousands of documents for them. Stop worrying about useless shit. They’ve got it covered.

      The government is sitting pretty.

      EDNY prosecutors are akin to a wily & hungry lion, poised to strike at their prey when the moment to act finally arrives.

  • Guess it’s up to someone in prison to remove those gold bricks up Clare Bears ass.

    Her attorney’s keep trying to prove she SPECIAL. If you cant do the time, don’t do the crimes.

  • Firstly… Clare already funded a ‘trust’ with $500k for Marianna and Kemar. Dummy.

    Unless it was a revocable trust (which it likely wasn’t) then she can’t ‘undo’ that financial support. Marianna’s got money for a long time. That means Keith’s commissary account will not be empty regardless of what your hero Claviger says.

    Secondly, what the fuck does ‘distigrating’ mean?

    Thirdly, EDNY prosecutors have virtually unlimited resources to sift thru thousands of extra discovery documents in a very short time. If necessary, they can add dozens of document review personnel to their team to sift thru thousands of documents for them. Stop worrying about useless shit. They’ve got it covered.

    The government is sitting pretty.

    EDNY prosecutors are akin to a wily & hungry lion, poised to strike at their prey when the moment to act finally arrives.

    • Oops, this was meant as a ‘reply’ to Heidi’s post below but it seems to have been posted separately. 🙂

      • Frank, I just reposted this same comment below (under Heidi’s post, where it belongs) —- so please delete this duplicate post.

    • A $500K trust typically only yields about $20K per year in income after management fees – Marianna is likely to be more concerned about keeping a roof over her and her son, than funding Raniere’s discretionary spending.

    • The bangBaby sure has the hots for Heidi. Bang has to critique Heidi’s comments constantly.

      I think Heidi has her own Sultan of Six in Bangkok.

      Creepy…

  • Just Because I Fucked Him Doesn’t Mean I Knew He Was Fucked Up! – Barbara Bouchey
    Just Because I Fucked Him Doesn’t Mean I Knew He Was Fucked Up! – Clare Bronfman

    TRUTH: Both women knew that pyscho was fucking underage girls,and decided not to do anything!

    • Heidi
      April 5, 2019 at 1:45 pm
      The proof is in the pudding. “Noblese Oblige” ain’t gonna cover this one, neither, Clare. You pumped and pimped for a Pedophile for nearly 15 filthy years.

      Clare did, apparently, believe KAR was her hubby though. Say Maybe Clare hired Burke behind Keith’s back to get rid of Marianna — deep down she’s the distigrating jealous type?

      Personally, I’d be surprised if there aren’t vids of the dainty heiress eating at the Y, herself, as rumored for years.

      Jury’s still out on that proof and I do hope DOJ is granted more time to at least review the entirety of the evidence the defense unjustly blocked so far over Clare’s “privileges.”

      Btw, is Clare still supporting Kemar, who could just turn out to be her, Marianna’s and KAR’s love child? Or is that just payment to cover Marianna’s “witness fees”?

      Thanks, Claviger

      [Little “Noblese Oblige” repost for you, lowly foot fucker. Do you ever even talk to your wife, Scott?]

    • It’s been reported that Bronfman was “grandfathered in” to DOS – which takes on new meaning given how she is looking these days. And regardless, I think she would have considered herself above branding and demanded to be exempted – and even though Raniere was the nominal master, he dared not bite the hand that fed him.

      Anyone who has been arrested and jailed has probably had distinctive markings such as tattoos or scars cataloged, though I’m not sure that information is publicly available.

  • Riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhht. You knew nothing. Poor little lamb, kept in the dark. You only FINANCED every last evil deed known to man. Literally. Rape. Murder. You name it. She financed it. And, if she really knew nothing, then she’s admitting to being extremely stupid. “Uhm…Keithy…where did that $20 million go?” “Oh THAT, that went to feeding poor children.” “Ok shmoopsey”

  • Unless Clare is deaf, dumb abd blind, she cannot claim ignorance.
    She lived in community. Lied under oath. Was instrumental in bugging her own father’s computer. Used her wealth to punish those considered enemies of NXIVM and Keith and those who had the common sense to leave.
    Clare knew. Clare saw. Clare aided and abetted.

    Branding was only the start for these “bad ass bitches.”
    Keep in mind Brandon Porter’s snuff experiments on the women only. Not men, women. To ferret out who could be fully desentisized to committing henious murders.
    I often think of the woman who bedded the despotic South American general so that, once he slept, she murdered him to free her people.
    Keith intimated he had something planned, something big.
    We kmow he had plans of inserting NXIVM acolytes in positions of power in Mexico and Libya. What better way than to weaponize females to seduce, then blackmail politicians or murder them.
    The Japanese gov’t before WW2 was taken over by 13 targeted political assasonations.
    Keith may not be the smartest man in the world but he sure ain’t stupid.

    Keith is, among other things, a megalomaniac.

    Would Sarah Edmondson have balked at a tattoo? Good question.
    I don’t believe even she can honestly answer that.

    • “Unless Clare is deaf, dumb abd blind, she cannot claim ignorance.”

      The same could be said about all of the top tier NXIVM women who lived in Clifton Park.

      When they claim ignorance of Raniere’s pedophilia they are LYING.

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