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Video Shown Where Raniere Jokes About Fucking Goats and Sheep

By Village Dianne

With additional information from a story published in the New York Post]

Mark Vicente testified for the entire day today and we still have not seen his cross examination. He will continue tomorrow on direct examination.

The highlight of the afternoon, however, was a video of Keith Raniere.

Before we get to that, a few things Vicente testified about:

  • In Mexico, Nxivm had wealthy people from prestigious families, from the upper echelons of society. This was in contrast to members in the USA.  Emiliano Salinas was in Keith’s trusted group. Vicente said he wasn’t aware if Keith ever went to Mexico.
  • Vicente finally realized that Nxivm was not promoting people’s dreams. Instead, they were quashing people’s dreams.
  • He was concerned that Keith was treated like a god. He was concerned about the almost religious nature of devotion to him.
  • During V-Week 2016, there was a project that required them to find Keith every night.  And the penance was to stand still for one hour if they hadn’t found him. One night, Keith didn’t show up. Vicente walked around and shined his flashlight in different places. He shined the flashlight into a cabin where he saw Keith and a woman in bed with their legs intertwined.  Vicente didn’t say anything, he just walked back. He was deeply disturbed by this.
  • in November 2016, Pam Cafrtiz died. He didn’t know why her death was kept a secret.
  • January 20, 2017.  Vicente’s wife resigned from Nxivm. She said the organization was built on coercion, fear, obligation and rules.
  • Vicente did not leave with his wife. He wanted to stick it out. He thought Keith was a shining light and that the problems were really with other people and Keith was blameless.
  • Sarah Edmondson and her husband [Anthony Ames] wanted to buy a house in Clifton Park. Vicente advised them not to since people who moved there didn’t do well.
  • The upper rank were supposed to have wisdom and maturity, but instead, they were extremely rule bound.
  • Keith characterized cult expert Rick Ross as an enemy. Keith told Vicente that Ross was being paid huge sums of money [to attack Nxivm]. Keith told Vicente that Ross was responsible for the tragedy at Waco.

Now we come to the video.

The sex lair of Keith Raniere’s – something he called his “Executive Library” – was the location of a 2012 film that was shown in court.  Adrian appears to have videoed this.

The film shows the sex lair with books, a table, a bed suspended over a hot tub and white-boards with supposed mathematical equations and a sketch of a toaster. An unsolved Rubik’s cube sits on Raniere’s desk, according to the New York Post.

There were lots of books on science, philosophy, computers, many other subjects.  Mariana and Pam Cafritz were in the video.

The Library [or sex lair] is at 8 Hale Dr. in Knox Woods in Clifton Park. Raniere used it for years as his bachelor pad. Federal agents raided the town home a day after Raniere was arrested in late March 2018.  They found child pornography — nude photos of then-15-year-old Camilia on a hard drive there.

“It’s a man-den office,” Vicente said.

According to the Post, the video starts out with Raniere admitting he hasn’t read many books in the library – and then making crude comments as he looks through wedding photographs in a photo album of two of Raniere’s followers.  Keith designed their wedding vows.

“Did you notice in one of the crowd shots the woman isn’t wearing panties?” Raniere asks the group gathered in the study for the film.

He calls women “piggies” and says, “To tease a woman about her odor, to say she’s a fish-hole, it’s official, she’s a fish-hole,” Raniere said to the camera.

Raniere jokes about people “fucking” sheep and goats.

He answers a phone call in a chair saying, “Lick me.”

Raniere belches and gives the finger to the camera.

At one point, Raniere lays down in the middle of the room, but did not take off his glasses.

“If I take my glasses off, I get sleepy or horny,” Raniere says.

“He told me he did lots of things lying down,” Vicente testified.

As the camera pans around the center, a hard drive is seen on a shelf to the right of the seating area. I believe the prosecution wanted to show that the hard drive was in plain sight.  They showed this hard drive on a shelf, and made a big deal out of it.

The showing of the video was very time consuming. They had to go to this specific spot in the video and then this other spot.  It made the afternoon’s testimony shorter, with less actual testimony from Vicente.

Vicente testified that Keith was very particular about where things should be in the library. He didn’t want anything relocated. He didn’t want any item to have a change of location. If anything was taken, it must be put back where it was.

It was mentioned that Mariana had a nickname “Monkey” and that everyone used this nickname for her.

I don’t know if the nickname “Monkey” for Mariana had a sexual connotation; maybe that’s why they brought it up.

 

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  • Keith Raniere is rude, crude and juvenile.
    An ignorant man who is proud of his ignorance.
    A truly despicable person.

    The video makes one wonder why any human being would follow him or regard him as wise.
    Raniere’s closest followers, those who lived in Knox Woods, had to know of Raniere’s madness.
    The video raises questions about the sanity of Raniere’s closest followers.

    All that said nothing in this testimony or evidence is illegal.
    If people want to follow this immoral pig, then that is their choice.

    As for the hard drive, if there is anything illegal on it then that case should be charged in the NDNY.

  • That fact that Keith had sex at all let alone with any willing partners grosses me out so much. He’s such a disgusting little man. But how did any of these guys get sex? Del Negro, Lucas Roberts, the Mexican men in NXIVM who are still in it. It confounds me that any woman could sleep with them.

  • That video once again shows Mr. “integration” as stuck at a late adolescent developmental state, with a number of strange fixations.

    It all reminds me of the “crazy wisdom” rationalization made for various gurus who were supposed to be transmitting wisdom while turning out to be behaving like bad boys, particularly some of the Tibetan Buddhists. Scientologists engage in somewhat similar apologism regarding their “tech” and its founder Hubbard, who in recent years has exposed for a criminal past including fraud, marital and family problems, a pattern of virtual pathological lying about his actual credentials and accomplishments, and various other shortcomings and transgressions, which get rationalized away as somehow irrelevant to his supposed teachings about things like ethics and ultimate truth.

    Vicente seems able to ignore or rationalize away almost anything, but then again this wasn’t the first strange guru he’d fallen for. What the Bleep Do We Know!? was largely inspired by his following of “Ramtha” channeler J. Z. Knight and her “school of wisdom;” they were known for gatherings she led where lots of wine drinking was part of the ritual, and in recent years there has been some video exposing a drunken Knight making very offensive statements at the events.

    The ability of NXIVM to draw from the upper classes of Mexico is an interesting phenomenon, and perhaps indicative of some cultural difference – I’ve heard it said that similar sorts of cults are more common or more popular in Mexico. Though NXIVM in the US did have the Bronfmans, and Pam Cafritz.

    • Re. Mexico, check out the story of the “healing waters” of Tlacote, MX. Fertile ground indeed for cults, miracles, and superstition.

    • You have to be from the upper class in Mexico in order to afford the classes. Or, you can sell your body, as the Mexican family of three girls and one boy did.

    • “That video once again shows Mr. “integration” as stuck at a late adolescent developmental state”

      Hey Nancy – Is it possible he’s stuck at age 16?

  • It would be very interesting to read a description of Keith’s reactions while witnessing Mark Vicente’s testimony.

  • The revengeful devil within me is enjoying that this fraud is being exposed as a complete fraud not only to people I cared about who were a part of this cult, but to the entire country, and possibly even the world.

    When you use ethics as a tool but don’t actually believe in what you’re saying to manipulate others (hypocrisy) those ethics come back around to bite you in the ass.

    And to Mark: WTF were you thinking? Once you saw this type of behavior from your so-called ethical guru, you should have left right then and there. Do you think Jesus or Buddha acted like this? Come on man.

    Gross.

    • “And to Mark: WTF were you thinking? ”

      Everyone of Raniere’s most devout followers should be asked this question.
      WTF were you thinking?

      Vicente did not live in Clifton Park.
      Clare, Allison, Nancy and Lauren. did live in Clifton Park.
      They experienced Raniere’s behavior all of the time.

  • What we know so far from the testimony”

    1. Raniere had unconventional and unpopular political views.
    This is NOT a crime.

    2. Raniere’s cult overcharged for worthless courses.
    Again this is NOT a crime.

    3. Raniere’s cult like Scientology collected information on his followers to manipulate them.
    Since Scientology has done this same collection for over sixty years and has not been prosecuted the criminality of this practice is debatable.
    And the Catholic Church has been using Confessionals for hundreds of years.

    4. Raniere is a rude, crude juvenile man.
    A very unpleasant man.
    These traits, while disgusting, are NOT criminal.
    In fact they raise more questions about the people who so religiously followed this troll of a man.

    5. Raniere is a very ignorant man who is proud of his ignorance.
    Raniere’s ignorance is NOT a crime.
    In fact this point raises more questions about the ignorance of Raniere’s closest followers who regarded Raniere as a great philosopher.

    6. Many people who should have known better, people like MARK VICENTE, enabled Raniere for years.

    What needs to be asked and answered:

    WHY THE COURT SYSTEM OF NEW YORK ON FEDERAL AND STATE LEVELS CONNIVED WITH RANIERE AND NXIVM TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE FOR YEARS.
    I understand why a dunce like Allison Mack lacked the brains to realize what a huckster Raniere is.
    Why were the college educated lawyers and Judges of New York State willing to enable Raniere and NXIVM in a Reign of Terror for twenty years?

    And why are the elites of Mexico, who rule that downtrodden country with an Iron Fist, so enamored with Raniere and NXIVM?

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