Keith Alan Raniere is presently residing at the Brooklyn Metropolitan Detention Center. Some of his slaves live in Brooklyn but are not easily able to see him. It is not clear how he issues commands to them.
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Can DOS Slaves Survive Without a Slave Master?

By Barry

Nice article — Bizarre Nxivm: Black Woman Fights to Be Called Slave of White Man, Keith Raniere

Although I believe Frank is writing much of this tongue-in-cheek since race or heritage isn’t an issue in this cult.

While India [l] got out of DOS – in large part through the intercession of her mother, Catherine – Michelle Hatchette [c] and Dr. Danielle Roberts [r] still crave the world of DOS where your every action is under the control of another human being.
I have to believe the majority of these women who wish to continue this master-slave relationship at this point are doing so because that’s what they want to do. They have found some comfort in this arrangement.

What it will take to shake them out of it remains a mystery.

Can Nicki Clyne fill the role as female master to the remaining DOS slaves? Will they still need a male Supreme Master. Can their current Supreme Master, Keith Alan Raniere, suffice while he sits in prison for the remainder of his life? And what if with the ongoing criminal investigation in Nxivm results in faithful first line slave Clyne being sent to prison? How will the DOS slaves be ruled and given the daily, hour-by-hour guidance they need and crave in order to function as “badass” women?

But I would think in a situation like this where your headmaster is in the process of being sent away, that it’s natural for the underlings to double down and circle the wagons. These women seem to suffer from some inferiority complex while at the same time having a form of pride that doesn’t allow them to self-reflect on their current situation. That’s a marginally fancy way of saying they’re too proud to see they’ve been taken advantage, so they’ll “show them”.

What it might take to break away is the new top masters, the Nicki Clynes of the world, to be unable to control the situation as Keith did and the slaves become disillusioned with the newest arrangement. But who’s to say with their personalities they wouldn’t seek a new master-slave relationship in some other setting.

Lauren Salzman, Nxivm was her whole life for 20 years. From 1998 to her arrest in August 2018, she was a leader of Nxivm. In 2017, she was the last first line slave invited into DOS by her master Keith Alan Raniere. Here she shares a laughs with her sister-wife Allison Mack.

I also have to wonder about the Lauren Salzmans of this cult and their future. She expresses regret now and talks about how she did things she knew was wrong but felt obligated to do so. But after 20 years of living like that and considering it to be the norm, can she and those like her really de-program in six months or a year? Hopefully, she is getting professional help and will continue to work through this.

However, this is parallel to a junkie who used for a long time and is now trying to detox. One slip and you’re back to doing it again, and maybe this time you have to intensify the situation to get the same high.

 

With their adorable master in custody and awaiting sentencing, who will fill the void as their male Supreme Master?

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  • I hate to play devils advocate but if they choose this who am I to say it’s wrong? Because it’s different from the life I lead?
    If they’re happy to provide collateral or blackmail, have readiness drills, be hungry all the time so be it.

    Something I notice in all the pictures is how damn happy they always appear. Their little community seemed quite content. Unless you were one with an ethical breach.

    Not excusing the crimes committed. I’m just pointing out their lifestyle may not be something that they need “shaken” from or eyes opened to.

    It’s easy to imagine what your neighbors might think of our own lifestyles and decisions. People are unique, cultures, communities etc

    • True, and good comment.

      And you’re not really playing devil’s’ advocate in that I also have concluded certain women in that group like the current arrangement. I suppose I’m wondering out loud just how many of them will be proactive and take an honest look at the whole situation and decide to reevaluate (in which case they might decide they want to stay) verses how many of them will just react and choose to double down.

    • According to testimony, DOS slaves were required to be able to regularly produce pictures where they all looked happy – even though quite a few of them apparently weren’t. So I don’t think that posed pictures can be considered evidence of much. From what I’ve seen of the younger generation, they also generally seem practiced at taking photos meant to appear as if they’re having the time of their lives or whatever.

      I agree that if they want to practice something like consensual BDSM, then that’s up to them. But DOS wasn’t formed based on proper informed consent, and quite the contrary; I doubt they’ve suddenly turned around and figured it out, so that means that more likely than not the operations of the group are problematic, and quite possibly headed for trouble again.

  • In the short-term, up to 1 – 2 years, it can survive in a much reduced form, but in the long-term it won’t survive.

    The DOSSERS will take it very hard when all of Raniere’s appeals have come to nothing.

    I expect that several of the DOS slaves will move to another cult, or just quietly leave.

    Nickvi will surprise everyone by doing something really stupid.

    • Paul,
      Niky has been strictly engaging in acts of stupidity bordering on the extreme for many years now. I can’t think of something more idiotic she could do that she hasn’t already done 😁

  • I have to state again that KAR was not convicted of depraved sexual behavior. He was convicted of engaging in, and having others engage in, criminal acts in the furtherance of his “enterprise.” That certain people will want to continue with their sick sex club is a separate issue. Disgusting, bizarre sexual behavior, and stupidity are not crimes.

    KAR committed racketeering crimes, which I will not laundry list again. BTW I believe the prosecutors only scratched the surface and there are many more crimes that have not come to light or have not been prosecuted. For example, where are NXIVM’s financial records? Did they report all sales income, and did they pay taxes on it? Did they pay their employees in accordance with NY law? Did they launder money and have it taken illegally over the Canadian and Mexican borders?

    What happened to Kristin Snyder? Was she “made” to disappear?

    You can’t import people from Mexico illegally to use them as house servants or sex workers – much less confine one in a room under threat of being returned to the border with no documents or money.

    You can’t arrange to have Mexican lawyers send letters with threats of criminal action in order to silence those who left the group or were speaking out.

    You can’t lure people to Mexico or a cruise ship with the intention of having them jailed, raped or killed.

    You can’t bribe law enforcement / public officials to give you a pass for the illegal acts you do.

    I’m sure DOS will continue in some form, with willing participants. It’s the NXIVM intimidation / litigation machine – the real criminal enterprise – that needs to be shut down forever.

  • What is the purpose of DOS now? Back in the day, NXIVM and DOS, in particular, were KAR’s personal harem. He will not be available for quite some time and as a consequence, these women are waiting in vain.

    • NXIVM the company has yet to face any charges. Making popcorn once again and waiting for its turn.

      Come on NDNY, we want our day in court.

    • “What is the purpose of DOS now? ”

      What it’s always been.
      A Sorority of Sisters into Sado-Masochism.

      And a new Master does not have to be male.
      The new Master can be female.

    • FDC,

      There is the possibility Vanguard will win an appeal and win second retrial…..

      ….Therefore the faithful will remain true and keep the flame burning.

      I feel sorry for those poor lost souls.

      • Feeling sorry for complete cretins is a futile exercise, NiceGuy! It’s like feeling sorry for an object. Does an object possess self-analysis??

        • Paul,

          Of course not….

          But don’t ever ask Buddhist the same question…….

          “the Buddhist view known as the Great Perfection (Dzogchen), all mental Iand physical phenomena are viewed as manifestations of this primordial unity of infinite consciousness, space, and energy.” Buddhist Doctrine.

          To be able to understand the quote above…….you have to be higher her than a motherfucker!!!!!!

  • I think you’re right that they must find some comfort in the situation.

    Some might have dependent personalities, and not know what else the would do, particularly if their source of income and living situation are tied into their continuing participation in the group – and if that’s the center of their social relationships.

    Some may be stuck in something like a mix of sort of hopeful belief and conspiracy theory, perhaps expecting that Raniere will somehow be vindicated and return to lead them again.

  • Frank or Krclaviger,

    I hope you wil be releasing an MDC update shortly.

    Friday MDC updates are a great start to the weekend!!!

    I and all the website guests wait patiently every week for are Friday MDC update.

    Thank!!!!

  • Grandmaster Bangkok and his humble servant, Son of Bang Kok, will humbly accept these slaves into our pod.

    • Son of Bangkok,

      Bangkok does not get back from summer camp until 5:30 pm.

      After he has supper and his mom gives him a good bath, he will respond to your post.

      😉

  • I wonder how many of the remaining coffle came through Dr. Porter’s snuff-tests with flying colours? Will the results of Dr. Porter’s experiments ever be available for Peer Review?
    Inquiring minds and all that.

  • Okay…I’ll do it! I will be the new Vanguard!

    My first decree is a name change. I want to be addressed as the Grand Poobah!

    While we’re at it; I want my dear DOS slaves to eat. Go out, grab a bite to eat…enjoy your life. And don’t text me at 3:00am because I work for a living. If you want to hear some great philosophy from me, bring me a six pack of beer, preferably a good IPA. After a few of those, I’ll regal my lovely DOS slaves with all sort of wisdom that will make vanguard’s theories as small and trivial as his penis. And no more branding, because it’s stupid.

    Which brings me to my next decree: Never utter the names “Keith Raniere” or “Vanguard” again! If you must reference him, use a hand gesture in which you point to your crotch with your pinky finger. I will issue more decrees, but one of my DOS slaves need to bring me a beer. Since your in NY, an Ithaca Flower Power will suffice.

  • Regarding DOS members:

    Most of these women have been brainwashed [for lack of a better word] for over a decade.

    Why does anyone believe that the DOS members are all going to come to their senses immediately?

    Lauren Salzman is a special case because she saw first hand what a coward Vanguard is.

    Lauren was lying face down in Mexico with police machine guns pointed at her head while Keith Raniere hid shaking in a closet.

    “The only thing that disgusts a woman more than a cheap man is a cowardly man.”

  • There is always someone stupid enough to follow someone else who believes strongly enough in a cause. Idiots following idiots. Nicki Clyne is truly a moron. Let the other losers follow her. They can’t do too much harm without sociopathic, stinky boy there,.

  • Unless the Bronfam sisters pony up some money I can’t see DOS persisting except maybe as a closed kink group.
    Hunger, and being homeless, is a hrash task master plus money for the luxuries of life.
    Except for a few die hard souls the rest will wander off and try to regain some semblance of a normal life.
    But…..they’re still bent.
    I wouldn’t trust any of them around a female of any age.

    In time I believe we will see some suicides in this group. When they see that doors are closed to them depression will sink in.

  • Warrent Jeffs whilst still in prison continued and continues to control his FLDS cult as he is allowed visitors, often 5 wives at a time and can issue orders from prison but that probably depends which state you are in as what is possible.

  • DOS doesn’t need a male leader, they joined DOS under the premise it was a woman-only run organization to begin with. Besides, Raniere barely qualifies as a man on his best day.

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